Taro T Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, WildCard said: I'm turning 26 soon. I just need to know who I can harass on here for medical advice because webmd keeps telling me I'm dying Stop drinking paint & you'll be fine. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Taro T said: Stop drinking paint & you'll be fine. ? I’ve been doing it all wrong. I thought you were supposed to huff it. ??♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 TBL are on another level. It's like they belong in a league of their own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, pi2000 said: TBL are on another level. It's like they belong in a league of their own. Is it coincidental that they also have/have had a strong AHL affiliate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Ogre said: Is it coincidental that they also have/have had a strong AHL affiliate? Not really , I like to compare our guys when they enter the league vs their guys. Theirs are usually 22-23 years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 The advantage of being TB is that good players get kept in the AHL longer and develop until the big teams either clears room for them or they force their way into the lineup. Imagine if Eichel, Reinhart, Dahlin, and Mittelstadt were all in the AHL right now because the big club didn't have room? Obviously that wouldn't happen even in TB but that goes to the point of why we want to keep drafting in the first and second rounds. Add those players that can put you over the top as 22yr olds. Brayden Point might help TB win a Stanley Cup. ALSO, HOW THE HELL WAS HE A 3rd round pick! He had 91points in his draft year in the WHL. Woof, what a bad job by a lot of other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The advantage of being TB is that good players get kept in the AHL longer and develop until the big teams either clears room for them or they force their way into the lineup. Imagine if Eichel, Reinhart, Dahlin, and Mittelstadt were all in the AHL right now because the big club didn't have room? Obviously that wouldn't happen even in TB but that goes to the point of why we want to keep drafting in the first and second rounds. Add those players that can put you over the top as 22yr olds. Brayden Point might help TB win a Stanley Cup. ALSO, HOW THE HELL WAS HE A 3rd round pick! He had 91points in his draft year in the WHL. Woof, what a bad job by a lot of other teams. Plenty of examples of guys who tore up Juniors and didn't amount to squat. Your all time leading junior scorers: WHL: Brian Sakic (591), Glen Goodall (573), Craig Endean (529) OHL: Stan Drulia (479), Dale McCourt (479), Wayne Groulx (477) QMJHL: Patrice Lefebvre (595), Stephan Lebeau (580), Patrick Emond (575) A regular who's who in NHL circles. I know you know this, just wanted to point it out for any interested readers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 It's less about their all time points and more about what they did specifically in their draft year. It doesn't mean they will hit but when a forward is over a ppg in their draft year, you definitely need to take a long hard look at taking them earlier then pick 79. Eric Cornel who Buffalo took at 44th overall, only had 62 points in his draft year in the OHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: The advantage of being TB is that good players get kept in the AHL longer and develop until the big teams either clears room for them or they force their way into the lineup. Imagine if Eichel, Reinhart, Dahlin, and Mittelstadt were all in the AHL right now because the big club didn't have room? Obviously that wouldn't happen even in TB but that goes to the point of why we want to keep drafting in the first and second rounds. Add those players that can put you over the top as 22yr olds. Brayden Point might help TB win a Stanley Cup. ALSO, HOW THE HELL WAS HE A 3rd round pick! He had 91points in his draft year in the WHL. Woof, what a bad job by a lot of other teams. The advantage of being Tampa Bay is Steve Yzerman. Good news? He's leaving Bad news? To Detroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 11 hours ago, pi2000 said: TBL are on another level. It's like they belong in a league of their own. Remember when we were ahead of them in the standings? It's crazy how fast that turned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Point probably dropped to the third because of his size, 5'9 at the time.... and he was on a very very bad team, a huge minus player. He's a pending RFA, and TBL will have just over $6m in cap space with more than a handful of roster spots to fill. Offer sheet? Edited January 4, 2019 by pi2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, WildCard said: The advantage of being Tampa Bay is Steve Yzerman. Good news? He's leaving Bad news? To Detroit Neither of these have been confirmed, eh? Or did I miss something with all the holiday cheer around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 16 hours ago, inkman said: In typical NHL fashion, they have no idea what their fans want so as soon as they think they got their finger on the pulse, they go full Sharknado pandering to the lowest common denominator without regard to integrity. Which fans? There are a lot of fans who do want this game, even if they are the lowest common denominator. There were 70k+ tickets/fans at the game. That's a success, even if no one watches it on TV. 12 hours ago, WildCard said: I'm turning 26 soon. I just need to know who I can harass on here for medical advice because webmd keeps telling me I'm dying We are all dying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, LTS said: Which fans? There are a lot of fans who do want this game, even if they are the lowest common denominator. There were 70k+ tickets/fans at the game. That's a success, even if no one watches it on TV. Not referring to this game as an example of what the fans want, quite the opposite. The league doesn't have a clue so as soon as they find a niche they send the whole fleet. They have no idea what the fans want. So instead of having this cool nuanced event that occurs annually, they bastardize the whole process by creating 400 outdoor games for our enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Neither of these have been confirmed, eh? Or did I miss something with all the holiday cheer around here? He's confirmed leaving Tampa Bay. The reason? He wants to live in Detroit. Ken Holland has been there a long time and is getting stale. I would be absolutely shocked if 'The Captain' and the best GM in hockey isn't the Red Wings GM next season https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2018/09/11/steve-yzerman-detroit-red-wings-ken-holland/1268811002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, inkman said: Not referring to this game as an example of what the fans want, quite the opposite. The league doesn't have a clue so as soon as they find a niche they send the whole fleet. They have no idea what the fans want. So instead of having this cool nuanced event that occurs annually, they bastardize the whole process by creating 400 outdoor games for our enjoyment. I realize you are overstating things on purpose. But exactly how many outdoor games are there this year? I don't even know. The only reason I care is because it's relevant to this discussion. Overall though, the NHL is hardly alone in this. The NFL used to have two games on Thanksgiving. It used to play national games 2 days a week. It used to have less teams in the playoffs, and so on. College football has Bowl Games for teams that are .500. Pretty soon the NBA will have basketball all Christmas Day (maybe they do, I honestly can't even tell you 50% of the basketball teams that exist). Point is.. it's a business and if the initiative makes money, it stays. There are not enough fans who dislike the outdoor games for them to stop having them. How do you define what "the fans want?" Again, if they are drawing large crowds and an above average TV rating for the product, doesn't it indicate they are having success? Edited January 4, 2019 by LTS Edited the NFL, although it was 3 days late in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, LTS said: I realize you are overstating things on purpose. But exactly how many outdoor games are there this year? I don't even know. The only reason I care is because it's relevant to this discussion. Overall though, the NHL is hardly alone in this. The NFL used to have two games on Thanksgiving. It used to play national games 2 days a week. It used to have less teams in the playoffs, and so on. College football has Bowl Games for teams that are .500. Pretty soon the NBA will have basketball all Christmas Day (maybe they do, I honestly can't even tell you 50% of the basketball teams that exist). Point is.. it's a business and if the initiative makes money, it stays. There are not enough fans who dislike the outdoor games for them to stop having them. How do you define what "the fans want?" Again, if they are drawing large crowds and an above average TV rating for the product, doesn't it indicate they are having success? A quick Google search has 3 outdoor games in 2019, with 4 played in each of 2016 & 2017. For my money it's overkill, but if someone wants to see one every couple of months, the world is theirs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, inkman said: A quick Google search has 3 outdoor games in 2019, with 4 played in each of 2016 & 2017. For my money it's overkill, but if someone wants to see one every couple of months, the world is theirs. Well, that's how i feel about it. I didn't watch the Winter Classic this year. I had better things to do and I don't like the Bruins. I also don't need all the pomp and circumstance, but most Americans do. I just want to see a hockey game played. I don't care if it's inside or outside as long as the product is not harmed. For me it's the over the top media garbage that ruins it more than the location. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, LTS said: Well, that's how i feel about it. I didn't watch the Winter Classic this year. I had better things to do and I don't like the Bruins. I also don't need all the pomp and circumstance, but most Americans do. I just want to see a hockey game played. I don't care if it's inside or outside as long as the product is not harmed. For me it's the over the top media garbage that ruins it more than the location. Seems unnecessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 They need to start buliding rectractable roof hockey arenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 Dan Rosen quoting Cam Atkinson: "For whatever reason, it was like I didn't like hockey anymore." On Cam Atkinson, in a rut last season, in the All-Star Game representing the @BlueJacketsNHL this season:” I wonder if Cam was labeled as an unwanted sad sack by the fan base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, WildCard said: He's confirmed leaving Tampa Bay. The reason? He wants to live in Detroit. Ken Holland has been there a long time and is getting stale. I would be absolutely shocked if 'The Captain' and the best GM in hockey isn't the Red Wings GM next season https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2018/09/11/steve-yzerman-detroit-red-wings-ken-holland/1268811002/ It's as predictable as the response from NS anytime a player from Halifax is mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 4, 2019 Report Share Posted January 4, 2019 This settles it, no one in the NHL likes ROR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 Dive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Amerk Posted January 5, 2019 Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: This settles it, no one in the NHL likes ROR Sheesh. That was like a sheet of paper getting hit by a 30mph wind gust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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