pi2000 Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Would it make sense to trade the first pick for a known superstar (Karlsson)? The guy likely still has 5-6 more great years ahead of him. Even though Dahlin looks like a lock to become a foundational player, there's been others with that reputation who didn't pan out. With Karlsson, you know what you're getting. I'm thinking Ottawa would need to pick up some of his salary in order for Buffalo to be able to fit in under the cap. I wouldn't trade the pick for a young Karlsson, but I would do it in a heartbeat for a young Doughty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 My world’s a bit off its axis since True face washed the Hockey Gods and we still we won the lottery. Accordingly, I’m not sure I have anything cautionary to write after seeing “Bobby Orr” in a paragraph about Dahlin. Robert Gordon Orr, from Parry Sound, Ontario. I think I’m feeling the vapours. Corrected its Parry Sound. PS there is great Hockey Hall of fame on the Harbor there that if you get up to that part of Canada it should be visited. Also take the 30,000 Island cruise. My folks owned property up there and I spent many a summer up there fishing and camping on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I took a snowmobiling trip to Parry Sound in high school. One of the best weeks of my life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Corrected its Parry Sound. PS there is great Hockey Hall of fame on the Harbor there that if you get up to that part of Canada it should be visited. Also take the 30,000 Island cruise. My folks owned property up there and I spent many a summer up there fishing and camping on them.PARRY! I’m mortified! Curses, North Buffalo ... I’ve admired your work. I feel like a schoolgirl gushing over “Robby Sherman” and the “Pheasant Family”. I have visited. It was a pilgrimage. Yikes, I hope I went to the right place! The horror ... the horror ... Edited May 8, 2018 by Neo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I’ll give our Nylander and 2nd next year for Karlsson. If Evander Kane signs in San Jose we get their 1st rounder... I'd trade THAT first round pick for Karlsson. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Listening to wgr on the way in interviewing the director of European scouting. Paraphrasing....he doesn't like doing player comparisons but they have not been this excited about a prospect coming out since Alex ovechkin. If your point is you would trade the pick for an elite, 24 year old that is already provenance then I probably agree with you. Just don't want casual observers thinking this is a Grigorenko type prospect Sabres fans are trying to pump the tires for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Listening to wgr on the way in interviewing the director of European scouting. Paraphrasing....he doesn't like doing player comparisons but they have not been this excited about a prospect coming out since Alex ovechkin. If your point is you would trade the pick for an elite, 24 year old that is already provenance then I probably agree with you. Just don't want casual observers thinking this is a Grigorenko type prospect Sabres fans are trying to pump the tires for. Any attempt to try this pick should lead to Jbot’s immediate dismissal. Look any team that adds Karlsson gets better immediately. If our team was close to contention I might think about for other assets. That said, with puck movers Ristolainen and Dahlin here, we really need another Scandella to partner up with Dahlin to form two excellent pairings. McCabe and Guhle can man the 3rd pairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Would it make sense to trade the first pick for a known superstar (Karlsson)? The guy likely still has 5-6 more great years ahead of him. Even though Dahlin looks like a lock to become a foundational player, there's been others with that reputation who didn't pan out. With Karlsson, you know what you're getting. I'm thinking Ottawa would need to pick up some of his salary in order for Buffalo to be able to fit in under the cap. you just lost your posting privileged. HELL NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) "Fun brand of hockey." How long before that gets coached out of him in blue-collar, try to win 2-1 Buffalo? I know that's not Phil's MO, but we sure didn't see Housley Hockey in year one. (Insert comment on how Phil didn't have anyone to coach, but Botterill will find him the right guys this time.) Edited May 8, 2018 by PASabreFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 "Fun brand of hockey." How long before that gets coached out of him in blue-collar, try to win 2-1 Buffalo? I know that's no Phil's MO, but we sure didn't sure Housley Hockey in year one. (Insert comment on how Phil didn't have anyone to coach, but Botterill will find him the right guys this time.) I forget which game it was but it was near the end of the season and we saw Housley Hockey. It was beautiful and the Sabres played some of the most amazing and entertaining hockey I have watched in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 I’ll give our Nylander and 2nd next year for Karlsson. That's not enough for Karlsson. You at least have to add Larsson. Or really sweeten the pot and throw in the dynamic duo of Moulson and Pominville. That will really tip the scales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 No on Karrlson... love him a lot but dont trust that wonky heel. That has to be really tough to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Any attempt to try this pick should lead to Jbot’s immediate dismissal. Look any team that adds Karlsson gets better immediately. If our team was close to contention I might think about for other assets. That said, with puck movers Ristolainen and Dahlin here, we really need another Scandella to partner up with Dahlin to form two excellent pairings. McCabe and Guhle can man the 3rd pairing. I'd do a Lindros deal if there weren't a salary cap (like when the Lindros deal happened), but that's about it. "Fun brand of hockey." How long before that gets coached out of him in blue-collar, try to win 2-1 Buffalo? I know that's not Phil's MO, but we sure didn't see Housley Hockey in year one. (Insert comment on how Phil didn't have anyone to coach, but Botterill will find him the right guys this time.) It's a beautiful day. Take a walk and get some sunshine and fresh air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Would it make sense to trade the first pick for a known superstar (Karlsson)? The guy likely still has 5-6 more great years ahead of him. Even though Dahlin looks like a lock to become a foundational player, there's been others with that reputation who didn't pan out. With Karlsson, you know what you're getting. I'm thinking Ottawa would need to pick up some of his salary in order for Buffalo to be able to fit in under the cap. Since no one else really did and I am the official Sabrespace welcome team ... Welcome to the board. Nice first post. And, no. Mostly because Erik is at that age where injuries have started to creep in. I like Karlsson, but no way. Awesome parade Randy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Ya that's the stuff I've been reading. Nick Lindstrom commented how Dahlin is better than he was at that same age. Several Swedish scouts quoted as saying he could be the best Swedish defensive prospect ever. I'm sure some is just hyperbole. But these arnt Sabrespace posters or even Kris Baker saying these things. Ofcourse he's a prospect and anything can happen. But the hype of Dahlin being better than Karlson eventually is definitely out there and not just from message board posters. I was living in Detroit when Lidstrom came on the scene. For some time now I've imagined that Dahlin will be the next Lidstrom. If he achieves that level of play, for as long as Lidstrom did (he was still in game shape when he retired after 21 years), I'll be thrilled. You don't throw Lidstrom away for Karlsson. You just don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 You don't trade a blue-chip prospect for a dude in his prime. Because if he's in his prime now he's A) as expensive as he'll ever be (after this next contract) and B) Set to regress quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 It's a beautiful day. Take a walk and get some sunshine and fresh air. This is virtual reality. There's no walking it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsb Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 With all the hype on this kid, I don't trade him for anything short of McDavid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedesessed Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 If Ottawa is looking to blow up their roster: Mike Hoffman is a player I wouldn't mind seeing Buffalo go after instead and would cost considerably less then Karlsson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 If Ottawa is looking to blow up their roster: Mike Hoffman is a player I wouldn't mind seeing Buffalo go after instead and would cost considerably less then Karlsson. I'll allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgia Blizzard Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) Let me ask a similar question: "Who WOULD YOU trade the 1st overall pick in this year's draft for ?" 1. McDavid 2. Matthews ? 3. Edited May 8, 2018 by Georgia Blizzard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Let me ask a similar question: "Who WOULD YOU trade the 1st overall pick in this year's draft for ?" 1. McDavid 2. Matthews ? 3. None of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Let me ask a similar question: "Who WOULD YOU trade the 1st overall pick in this year's draft for ?" 1. McDavid 2. Matthews ? 3. 1 for 1, value-wise? McD, Matthews, Hedman, MacKinnon. There are loads of 2 player packages I would put together too. But considering our weakness on the back end, I would probably only do 1 for 1 with McDavid and maybe Hedman. Dahlin's value is not top three in the league though, if you were to poll GMs, I'd bet a ton of money on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 Let's roll the dice on some magic beans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 for 1, value-wise? McD, Matthews, Hedman, MacKinnon. There are loads of 2 player packages I would put together too. But considering our weakness on the back end, I would probably only do 1 for 1 with McDavid and maybe Hedman. Dahlin's value is not top three in the league though, if you were to poll GMs, I'd bet a ton of money on that Most GMs in the league aren't in our position though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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