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Of course you have to think that there is a considerable number of teams that would be knocking on Panthers door for Huberdeau.  Could be a bidding war... 

That said... I think he fits.  I'm not 100% sold on him, but I know he's a roster upgrade.

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1 hour ago, TrueBlueGED said:

Dale Tallon is a bad GM. 

It would be hilarious to watch him land both of those guys and then immediately lose both to free agency.  I'd imagine the deal would have to be contingent on them accepting extensions, but it all seems so odd right now.  And Huberdeau needs to be moved in order to make room, you'd have to imagine Columbus would show some interest.

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

You'd be looking at SJS 1st, a high end prospect (Nylander, Olofsson, Guhle), a rostered player and maybe a sweetner. I would not mind Huberdeu on the team and if we can give him without sacrificing the future, I would. 

Would you give up one of first for him, or someone of similar age/stature/contract?

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20 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Would you give up one of first for him, or someone of similar age/stature/contract?

Pretty much maintained that for a month now. Term, under X age, produces. But only the later first, I still want to use the top 2

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34 minutes ago, shrader said:

It would be hilarious to watch him land both of those guys and then immediately lose both to free agency.  I'd imagine the deal would have to be contingent on them accepting extensions, but it all seems so odd right now.  And Huberdeau needs to be moved in order to make room, you'd have to imagine Columbus would show some interest.

I don't think there's any way to guarantee that, or write it into the trade language, is there? Unless the extension is signed before the trade happens?

You could make draft picks conditional, but that's a risk for both teams, because a player and an agent can always change their mind when the extension is actually offered post-trade, right?

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Is there anything in the CBA that would not allow a sign and trade deal like in the NBA?

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

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3 hours ago, tom webster said:

Jonathan Huberdeau, with a cap friendly deal ($5.9 cap hit for 4 more years) is reportedly available. He is the kind of guy I want!

 

Panarin, Bob and Marketting hockey in a non-traditional market.

Unfortunately, I don’t think JBOT has what it takes to pull this off.

Asset wise, or aptitude?

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

Probably something close to that.  Doesn't look like they have any short term bad contracts the Sabres could take on to lessen the price moving out unfortunately.

Botterill had better be making a push for this.  More likely to get moved than Coutourier.  Doesn't fix the 2C problem but makes the LW pretty much completely set: Skinner, Huberdeau, Sheary, Girgensons basically totally remakes that spot with guys like Smith in the wings.  Andin 2 years when Mittelstadtis ready for 2C duty they have Skinner, Eichel, Reinhart, Huberdeau, & Mittelstadt in the top 6.  With Rodrigues, Olaffson (should he not be part of the package to FLA), Thompson, surprisingly quickly developing rookie, or FA/trade piece as the last piece there.  

Third scoring line could still be a mess, but with that ahead of it, that should be good enough at worst.

I'd be ecstatic to bring in Huberdeau, with the only caveat being I wouldn't want it to prevent Botterill from being able to bring in a 2C this offseason or before, which I think is the more important add.

But with the talent of Huberdeau, it may lower the talent/production bar that the 2C Botterill may be looking to acquire needs to reach. I.e. - If we give up assets for Huberdeau, we likely have to give up less to get a viable 2C. Especially with that 2C likely being the 3C, depending on Casey, sooner or later. 

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3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Asset wise, or aptitude?

I'd be ecstatic to bring in Huberdeau, with the only caveat being I wouldn't want it to prevent Botterill from being able to bring in a 2C this offseason or before, which I think is the more important add.

But with the talent of Huberdeau, it may lower the talent/production bar that the 2C Botterill may be looking to acquire needs to reach. I.e. - If we give up assets for Huberdeau, we likely have to give up less to get a viable 2C. Especially with that 2C likely being the 3C, depending on Casey, sooner or later. 

I think if you have a 2nd line of Huberdeau - ____ - Reinhart, 2C suddenly is not as critical as we feel now. Just depends on JBott's & Housley's philosophy, and if they would want to build a line like that.

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2 minutes ago, erickompositör72 said:

I think if you have a 2nd line of Huberdeau - ____ - Reinhart, 2C suddenly is not as critical as we feel now. Just depends on JBott's & Housley's philosophy, and if they would want to build a line like that.

Honestly, if even:

Skinner - Eichel - Whoever

Huberdeau - Mittelstadt - Reinhart 

...isn't a playoffs-achieving top-6, I'd be fairly surprised. 

If we can add that 2C and bump Casey down for a time, if we didn't make the playoffs I'd be at a loss. 

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1 minute ago, Thorny said:

Honestly, if even:

Skinner - Eichel - Whoever

Huberdeau - Mittelstadt - Reinhart 

...isn't a playoffs-achieving top-6, I'd be fairly surprised. 

If we can add that 2C and bump Casey down for a time, if we didn't make the playoffs I'd be at a loss. 

put Sheary Mitts and Sam together move Huberdeau up. Mitts playing a lot better lately, move guys up from the A next year for third line.

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1 hour ago, shrader said:

It would be hilarious to watch him land both of those guys and then immediately lose both to free agency.  I'd imagine the deal would have to be contingent on them accepting extensions, but it all seems so odd right now.  And Huberdeau needs to be moved in order to make room, you'd have to imagine Columbus would show some interest.

If Columbus could get Huberdeau for Panarin, that would be a coup. I can't imagine they'd get a better asset from another team. 

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16 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Honestly, if even:

Skinner - Eichel - Whoever

Huberdeau - Mittelstadt - Reinhart 

...isn't a playoffs-achieving top-6, I'd be fairly surprised. 

If we can add that 2C and bump Casey down for a time, if we didn't make the playoffs I'd be at a loss. 

That's definitely a playoff top-6. Mittelstadt has been clearly overmatched, but skating him with the Thompsons and Okposos of the world hasn't done him any favors. I'd also like to add a center regardless, but I'm not complaining much if Mitts is flanked by those two wings. 

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49 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

Is there anything in the CBA that would not allow a sign and trade deal like in the NBA?

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

Yes.  They are talking about that with Duchene.

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Maybe Botts could work something out with Columbus and Florida to make a three way trade. 

 

Florida gets Bobrovsky and Panarin.

Buffalo gets Huberdeau and RD Weeger from Florida.

Columbus gets Scandella, Nylander,  and San Jose 1st from Buffalo.

Columbus gets Florida 1st and G James Reimer.

Buffalo gets Boone Jenner from Columbus.

 

Br4eak down for each team...

 

Florida trades Huberdeau, Weeger, Reimer, and 1st rd pick for Panarin and Bobrovsky.

Columbus trades Panarin, and Bobrovsky for Scandella, Sobotka, Nylander, Reimer, and two 1st rd picks.

Buffalo trades Scandella, Sobotka, Nylander, and 1st pick for Huberdeau and Weeger.

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15 hours ago, erickompositör72 said:

I don't think there's any way to guarantee that, or write it into the trade language, is there? Unless the extension is signed before the trade happens?

You could make draft picks conditional, but that's a risk for both teams, because a player and an agent can always change their mind when the extension is actually offered post-trade, right?

 

It's simple really.  You give the team permission to talk to the player ahead of the deal.  If they reach an agreement, the trade goes through.  I suppose they could back out after that, but in that case, the deal gets voided.  Any agent playing that game is risking career suicide.

14 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said:

If Columbus could get Huberdeau for Panarin, that would be a coup. I can't imagine they'd get a better asset from another team. 

It involves a larger deal obviously, but Columbus would be crazy to not entertain the notion.

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15 hours ago, North Buffalo said:

put Sheary Mitts and Sam together move Huberdeau up. Mitts playing a lot better lately, move guys up from the A next year for third line.

Huberdeau is primarily a LW, even though he is listed as a C on some sites. As such, you probably wouldn't want to play him on his off wing on the top line as it may limit his productivity.

I think that...

15 hours ago, TrueBlueGED said:

Skinner - Eichel - Whoever

Huberdeau - Mittelstadt - Reinhart

...gives us more of a line 1A/1B type of scenario and prevents teams from stacking to shut down the Eichel line, which has recently been the formula to beat the Sabres.

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18 hours ago, Mustache of God said:

Wouldn't Huberdeau be sent back to COL if they're trading Panarin and Bob?

This seems to be the correct concept 

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18 hours ago, Mustache of God said:

Wouldn't Huberdeau be sent back to COL if they're trading Panarin and Bob?

My nitpicky helpful hint of the day: COL is the NHL abbreviation for Colorado.  CBJ is Columbus.

I really hope I'm not coming across as an ass on this one.  There's enough craziness around the Avs that I could probably be easily convinced that they somehow have a claim to Huberdeau through the Duchene trade.

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The assumption is that Panarin and Bob are signing as free agents in June, not be traded to Florida.

Florida is then going to need to shed some payroll.

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4 minutes ago, shrader said:

My nitpicky helpful hint of the day: COL is the NHL abbreviation for Colorado.  CBJ is Columbus.

I really hope I'm not coming across as an ass on this one.  There's enough craziness around the Avs that I could probably be easily convinced that they somehow have a claim to Huberdeau through the Duchene trade.

No, you're right. As soon as I posted that I looked at it thought "hmm...that doesn't look right, but with context people should understand what I meant".

Anyways, it seems highly unlikely that Buffalo would be able to land Hubey in this scenario as it'd depend on a trade & sign for two players, plus CBJ would be getting a sizeable return for that package, I don't see how Buffalo makes sense here aside from fantasy trade scenarios.

 

 

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His NTC does not kick in until July 1st, so this could be a draft day deal for Florida and they would have a better indication about landing Panarin and Bob by then.

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Don't know if this is credible info or not but heard that Panarin has a condo in Florida and also that his GF likes Florida

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3 minutes ago, Cityo'Rasmii said:

Don't know if this is credible info or not but heard that Panarin has a condo in Florida and also that his GF likes Florida

The rumor has always been a big city or a place that is warm. 

Miami checks both boxes. 

Also another small detail, if Florida does want to shed salary that probably means Mike Hoffman hits UFA on July 1st.

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