inkman Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, rickshaw said: Not sure if this has been floated but is it time to move on from Samson? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 If the Jets go after someone, I think it will be a center and I don't think Toffoli was playing C for the Kings. Dzingel is a LW I think and Ferland, a Manitoba native, is also a LWer. I hope they stay away from Hayes, too. Staal would be nice, if available. Duchene would be too costly...I want no part of Brassard...Schenn would be nice but he'd cost more than we paid for Stastny because of his extra year. I'd give up a 1st and Petan or even as high as Comrie for Staal, especially if he re-signed for two more years. I can also see Chevy picking up a D man for depth...maybe something like a 4th rounder or something for a D man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeSabresGrr8Again Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrueBlueGED said: . Why? Do you think his career season is a mirage? C'mon.....we can't have guys in Buffalo that are having career years, how long you been around here? Edited February 3, 2019 by MakeSabresGrr8Again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: Per Saturday Night Headlines the asking price for Tyler Toffoli, Ryan Dzingel and Michael Ferland remains a 1st Round Pick Calgary, Winnipeg and Nashville appear to be the team’s most likely to part with theirs Also Winnipeg is interested in Kevin Hayes. I would give two firsts for Toffoli and Dzingel 3 hours ago, rickshaw said: Not sure if this has been floated but is it time to move on from Samson? “Move on”? No. Get good value for him if it’s out there? Sure. Eichel and Dahlin are the only two players that are “untouchable.” Maybe Mittelstadt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 hours ago, rickshaw said: Not sure if this has been floated but is it time to move on from Samson? If by move on you mean actively shop him then no. If you mean we target another player for a trade then yes. This only works if said player is either: 1. More talented at the same position. 2. Equally talented at the same position with a more appealing contract. 3. Fills a position that is more important than 1RW. Such as a legitimate 2C. If the return is picks and prospects and JBott accepts I will sue for emotional damages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 This team could use some toughness with speed, so who's out there that fits the bill while still adhering to Bots policy of no rentals this deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: This team could use some toughness with speed, so who's out there that fits the bill while still adhering to Bots policy of no rentals this deadline? Ok don’t shoot the messenger on this. Tom Wilson has 14 goals in 33 games, 24 years old, signed through 2023/2024 at over 5 mil. Dirty but tough or tough but dirty depending how you look at it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Ok don’t shoot the messenger on this. Tom Wilson has 14 goals in 33 games, 24 years old, signed through 2023/2024 at over 5 mil. Dirty but tough or tough but dirty depending how you look at it. I'm a lover, not a fighter, but ... bang ... bang Make that squirt ... squirt with a big water gun. No way, no how. Edited February 4, 2019 by New Scotland (NS) DAMN TABLET!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABRES 0311 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: I'm a lover, not a fighter, but ... bang ... bang Make that squirt ... squirt with a big water gun. No way, no how. Ok ok. Ryan Reeves has a warm body with skates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 17 hours ago, rickshaw said: Not sure if this has been floated but is it time to move on from Samson? No thank you. Then again, every one of my avatar/name sakes on this site have been traded at one point, so maybe it is inevitable (Goose, Boyes, etc.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 I’d go after Toffoli with Beaulieu and the 2020 2nd and SJSs 4th this year Not a rental and would give us further depth on the wing. the biggest problem is the lack of non rental Cs on the market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: I’d go after Toffoli with Beaulieu and the 2020 2nd and SJSs 4th this year Not a rental and would give us further depth on the wing. the biggest problem is the lack of non rental Cs on the market I don't think that package even gets us in the conversation, but I don't mind targeting Toffoli. We've killed Beaulieu's value by not playing him, and the next years 2nd ~ equals a 2019 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Samson's Flow said: I don't think that package even gets us in the conversation, but I don't mind targeting Toffoli. We've killed Beaulieu's value by not playing him, and the next years 2nd ~ equals a 2019 3rd. I’d disagree on Beaulieu’s value being shot. He’s worth a 4th. Toffoli is having a down year. my original offer would be SJSs 1st and Beaulieu for Toffoli and their 4th/3rd based on Beaulieu’s games performance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Samson's Flow said: No thank you. Then again, every one of my avatar/name sakes on this site have been traded at one point, so maybe it is inevitable (Goose, Boyes, etc.) Quick change it to something, or other, Scandella. ????? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: I’d disagree on Beaulieu’s value being shot. He’s worth a 4th. Toffoli is having a down year. my original offer would be SJSs 1st and Beaulieu for Toffoli and their 4th/3rd based on Beaulieu’s games performance I'm totally on board with trading for a 26 year old former 25 goal scorer with a reasonable contract (signed a three-year, $13.8 million contract extension in 2017). The Kings sound like they are looking to rebuild a little bit, so I would see if we can entice them with the picks we have available. Also, from the sounds of it, the Kings bloggers feel he could be more effective in a faster paced offense compared to the Kings "old and slow" roster. https://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/2018/12/3/18124667/the-curious-case-of-tyler-toffoli-los-angeles-kings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shrader Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Odd. Luongo is signed through 2022 at a $4.53 million cap hit. That would be a big combined hit for two goalies. I'm not really sure what the recapture penalty would be if/when he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 Here is the breakdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Ok don’t shoot the messenger on this. Tom Wilson has 14 goals in 33 games, 24 years old, signed through 2023/2024 at over 5 mil. Dirty but tough or tough but dirty depending how you look at it. Would take him in a heartbeat., 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, shrader said: Odd. Luongo is signed through 2022 at a $4.53 million cap hit. That would be a big combined hit for two goalies. I'm not really sure what the recapture penalty would be if/when he retires. Unless this is some weird Seattle expansion play - like how Pittsburgh basically guaranteed that MAF would be the starting goalie for the Golden Knights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Samson's Flow said: Unless this is some weird Seattle expansion play - like how Pittsburgh basically guaranteed that MAF would be the starting goalie for the Golden Knights. I'd imagine that he wants to be in Florida or nowhere at all. That's a big part of how he wound up back there in the first place. Retirement is probably the most likely option which, from what Brawndo posted, hits Vancouver the hardest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, steveoath said: Would take him in a heartbeat., That guy is a big dirty scumbag player. No way I would want him to play for the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 3 hours ago, shrader said: Odd. Luongo is signed through 2022 at a $4.53 million cap hit. That would be a big combined hit for two goalies. I'm not really sure what the recapture penalty would be if/when he retires. They also have Reimer for two more years at $3.5M. And besides that, I can't imagine being comfortable giving Bobrovsky 8 years with how he's played this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: They also have Reimer for two more years at $3.5M. And besides that, I can't imagine being comfortable giving Bobrovsky 8 years with how he's played this season. Florida GM: "Imagine if we got all of the goalies on our team, think of how easy it would be to score goals then!" Advisors: "You know that isn't how it works right...?" Florida GM: "It's like when they pull the goalie at that end of the game, but all the time!" Advisors: *facepalm* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickshaw Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 20 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: If by move on you mean actively shop him then no. If you mean we target another player for a trade then yes. This only works if said player is either: 1. More talented at the same position. 2. Equally talented at the same position with a more appealing contract. 3. Fills a position that is more important than 1RW. Such as a legitimate 2C. If the return is picks and prospects and JBott accepts I will sue for emotional damages. That’s what I meant. Getting a player of equal quality to make a cultural change so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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