That Aud Smell Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I saw that Coller at WGR tweeted this. Interesting development. The Beauts, apparently. http://pointstreaksites.com/view/nwhl/teams-388/buffalo-beauts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) Nice. The pipeline of talented young Canadian and American (and other!) women hockey players has been opening up pretty wide over the past dozen years, and it's high time for a real pro opportunity for post-grads and post-juniors. Puck Daddy writeup. Ruggiero's involved, that's a good thing. At the very least, it's going to be an entertaining league that has cheap tickets and cheap beer. At best, it'll grow to be a legit pro league that showcases the sport and inspires young players. Edited March 26, 2015 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'll pay just to support it. I don't even need to see the games. How much do I have to donate to give women a place to play? This is good. Plus there is a good talent pool around here to draw from. RIT, Mercyhurst, Robert Morris, etc. Women's hockey could do well here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) I'm not crazy about "Beauts." Edited March 26, 2015 by Promonov Robotnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm not crazy about "Beauts" and I'm really not crazy about the recycled Whalers logo. It doesn't even make a "B." There's four teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 A little hint of the old Bisons logo in that Beauts logo, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) There's four teams. I'm a little slow. WIll they play at Harborcenter? Edited March 26, 2015 by Promonov Robotnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 A little hint of the old Bisons logo in that Beauts logo, no? It's got potential. I appreciate the sword-iness. I also appreciate the homage of each team's logo to the men's pro league logo of that city. It's a nice move in the direction of equality and synergy. The Beauts could rock the Sabres' 40th anniversary jersey and look pretty damn good doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The one thing I wonder about is the draft of Juniors. It works in the CHL/NHL since there's enough money to make it worthwhile for the players, but I'd be hard-pressed to move to another city for what (in their own words) is a part-time job. What if you have a job offer in Boston for your field but Buffalo drafts you? Does the team get compensated somehow if you won't play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's got potential. I appreciate the sword-iness. I also appreciate the homage of each team's logo to the men's pro league logo of that city. It's a nice move in the direction of equality and synergy. The Beauts could rock the Sabres' 40th anniversary jersey and look pretty damn good doing it. This would be a great opportunity for some more "One Buffalo" marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) The one thing I wonder about is the draft of Juniors. It works in the CHL/NHL since there's enough money to make it worthwhile for the players, but I'd be hard-pressed to move to another city for what (in their own words) is a part-time job. What if you have a job offer in Boston for your field but Buffalo drafts you? Does the team get compensated somehow if you won't play? I imagine players that declare their eligibility want to play in that league, and they'll know that comes at a the risk that they play in a town not of their choosing. Life event logistical bonus: the draft occurs one year before their senior year is over, so they have a year to plan their move. It's probably not that different from drafting Russian players and asking them in pre-draft interviews about staying in the K. This would be a great opportunity for some more "One Buffalo" marketing. Aye. Edited March 26, 2015 by IKnowPhysics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I imagine players that declare their eligibility want to play in that league, and they'll know that comes at a the risk that they play in a town not of their choosing. Life event logistical bonus: the draft occurs one year before their senior year is over, so they have a year to plan their move. It's probably not that different from drafting Russian players and asking them in pre-draft interviews about staying in the K. I was thinking there'd have to be contracts and whatnot signed pre-draft, but man would it suck to give up a great job for nothing because you had to go play. As a side note there, I wonder how they'll deal with walk-ons. As a player, I might not declare for the draft, finish up college, and then try to walk-on to a team based on where I have a job or even plan it out that way (I want to play in Buffalo, so I'll walk-on when I get a job there). Actually, why doesn't that work for the CHL/NHL? Is declaring yourself eligible for the NHL draft part of the CHL contract for players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm not crazy about "Beauts." Why? Because of a grrl thang? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Actually, why doesn't that work for the CHL/NHL? Is declaring yourself eligible for the NHL draft part of the CHL contract for players? It's part of the NHL CBA (not the CHL). NHL CBA mandates that player wishing to enter the NHL, that meet inclusive requirements, must declare eligibility for a draft. If they pass through a draft undrafted, or do not meet draft eligibility requirements, they're effectively UFAs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_Entry_Draft#Eligible_players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Cool stuff. I'd definitely attend games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's part of the NHL CBA (not the CHL). NHL CBA mandates that player wishing to enter the NHL, that meet inclusive requirements, must declare eligibility for a draft. If they pass through a draft undrafted, or do not meet draft eligibility requirements, they're effectively UFAs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_Entry_Draft#Eligible_players Ah, that makes way more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHockey13 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm not sure why any girl would want to play on a team called "The Whale". It's a nice idea and all, and if I was in Buffalo and bored I might attend a game, but I can't predict super exciting hockey. Don't get me wrong - I love the idea of girls playing, and even a few play in the lower levels of the beer leagues down here, and I've played with a few - and one could hold her own pretty well. But it's not going to be more entertaining than a Canisius College Men's Game. I'm not sure where they'll get the money to pay the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Why? Because of a grrl thang? A grrl I know does not love the name either. But as an Islanders fan she hates the Riveters' colors, initials and logo — all borrowed heavily from the Rangers — so she might by default have to be a Beaut fan. The Beaut logo is a subtle, more abstract buffalo than we're used to seeing. I kind of like it. Why does the Pride logo feature Hershey skid marks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 FWIW, I'm given to understand that "beaut" is a term that is used without regard to gender in the hockey world. "You see that sick saucer pass that Gordo sent me? Guy's a real beaut." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) A grrl I know does not love the name either. But as an Islanders fan she hates the Riveters' colors, initials and logo — all borrowed heavily from the Rangers — so she might by default have to be a Beaut fan. The Beaut logo is a subtle, more abstract buffalo than we're used to seeing. I kind of like it. Why does the Pride logo feature Hershey skid marks? I assume they're going to tie a lion in there with the black-gold color scheme. Those are scratches. Edited March 26, 2015 by Met'yuPirog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 FWIW, I'm given to understand that "beaut" is a term that is used without regard to gender in the hockey world. "You see that sick saucer pass that Gordo sent me? Guy's a real beaut." Never thought of that. A double-entendre then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I assume they're going to tie a lion in there with the black-gold color scheme. Those are scratches. And they're a pride. Never thought of that. Nor had I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 FWIW, I'm given to understand that "beaut" is a term that is used without regard to gender in the hockey world. "You see that sick saucer pass that Gordo sent me? Guy's a real beaut." Unfortunately, 99% of casual fans won't know that and will think it a misogynistic term, on par with the "Peaches" and "Belles" in the All American Girls Professional Baseball League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Unfortunately, 99% of casual fans won't know that and will think it a misogynistic term, on par with the "Peaches" and "Belles" in the All American Girls Professional Baseball League. Agreed that this is an issue. But if handled correctly, it could come off the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 big oaks sprout from little acorns, with the increasing popularity of women's hockey, especially in the Olympics, putting a team in a hockey crazy area like Buffalo could be a major win/win for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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