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7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
The Levi situation is the goaltender version of Mitts. Mitts signed after his college season ended and was excellent with 5 pts in 6 games. The next season Jbot threw him to the wolves and although he survived the season, it was pretty clear he wasn’t NHL ready.
Levi signs after his college season and was mostly excellent in his 7 game tryout. KA anoints him the no.1 G and it’s clear now he’s not ready for the job. Like Mitts before him he should have been sent down. Let’s not make the same mistake twice. Send Levi down and let him earn his way back.
It’s sad when UPL is the best option, but that’s the bed KA made for us and the team.
Beautiful analogy. Well said.
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I think this is a great pick up for the Leafs given that they need to push for winning now. Surprised they were able to make the salary work. Minnesota only gets a 4th for picking up a 1/4 of his salary (seems low to me).
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5 minutes ago, Taro T said:
He got his break in 2 Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place (pizza joint? pizzeria?). He also was the Green Lantern in another of a long line of bad DC movies. (If Batman isn't in it, there's a really good change it'll be bad if it's from DC.)
The gin company is Aviator.
I always find it funny when he openly talks about how bad Green Lantern was.
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Yes I agree that each player is an individual case. With any investment you want to sell high. Not all our top prospects will play for the Sabres. Some will and some will fill key future roles. Each year after they are drafted you get a better picture of the player they will become. So when we consider a trade for say Chychrun, are we trading a top line winger in Rosen or a third liner or a career AHL player?
I'm sure that the team is constantly evaluating.
I think as fans we get into loving prospects for where they were drafted and the potential at the time and not wanting to trade a prospect until we know they won't work out (but by then value has dropped).
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With the trade deadline coming and talk of potential trades it started me thinking about when a pick, prospect or player reaches their highest value. We have drafted lots of talent and some of those players or prospects will eventually be traded for other needs. The picks, prospects, and players that have yet to reach their potential are investments for the team. Some will eventually take spots on the roster to keep salaries reasonable (below the Cap), some will be traded, some will not reach their potential.
When I hear what Arizona wants for Chychrun, I would say he’s at his highest value since he was drafted. So he’s worth more today than the original draft pick (he’s grown as an investment for Arizona to what he’s worth on the trade market).
I summarized the Sabre players in the PDF attachment for draft years +1, +2, +3, +4. Not as a comparison but it helps to remember the highs and lows of their development.
Started with 2016 (with our Nylander pick).Sabre Draft Picks Value.pdf
It’s interesting to consider when the pick or the player reaches their highest value. Obviously draft year, draft spot play a role, as well as the player’s development (some players take more time), (injuries can slow development), (opportunity – room on the roster), etc.
· Nylander was a pick that we eventually turned into Jokiharju. The highest value was most likely the #8 pick itself before the player was taken.
· I would argue that Mittelstadt’s trade value was highest after his D1 (draft +1) season. So his value peaked and has come down.
· Dahlin, Samuelson, Cozens are all more valuable today than where they were picked as they continue to improve towards their peak years.
· Krebs trade value peaked after his D2 season. He’s still a great young player and I’m not suggesting dumping him in a trade but I do question if he will reach the level that was predicted for him.
· Johnson’s trade value peaked after his D3 season. He hasn’t signed with the Sabres (yet) but his value has now dropped because of that.
· Quinn, Peterka, Power, trade value has improved and is still rising.
· Östlund, Kulich’s trade value has improved since their draft position.
· Savoie’s trade value may be the same as where he was drafted last season (8OA).
· 2023 draft pick (position still to be determined). How does the value of this pick compare to the players above?
· To me a player that has been drafted and is further along in his development provides more certainty (and value) for a GM in a trade than a 1st round pick (where the draft position is still to be determined by the standings and playoff results – unless you think the team will crash and burn and the pick will be a top 10 pick).
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A bit of a lesson for Zegras from Crosby.
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Not giving us much. How about St.Louis being in the mix for him? They are looking to shake things up a bit.
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18 hours ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:
Come in off the ledge, my friend.
Tomorrow at noon will be here soon.
Good thing you got him away from the ledge before the game started.
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After the break off the coaches need to find a way to get the team ready to play again. Failed. Next.
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Nice start
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After a long break I'm not sure what to expect. I'm thinking they will either come out strong and dominate or totally flat. Hoping for a great win today (5-3). I really missed Sabres hockey.
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So he resigned as "Secretary of Labour" or "Labor Secretary"?
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I would love to see him signed for $10M x 8 but I'm not sure what to expect with this next contract for Dahlin. Anywhere from $9M to $11M.
Wasn't there pressure by the Players Union when Doughty and Karlsson signed their deals in 2018 and 2019? Maybe not official but at the end of the day I think they want to keep driving salaries higher and not go for the team friendly deals with the top stars in the league. Maybe this isn't an influence for Dahlin but I do remember Doughty's comments from back at that time.
Thoughts?
Reference story:
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Always late with my comments but it's a nice surprise coming home from work late. I read through the thread though and lots of good comments and thoughts.
Cozens has taken the steps to improve this season that we were all hoping for. I remember there was some debate in the off season if Cozens or Mittlestadt would step up this season to take the 2nd line center spot. Cozens did and he has so much potential still which is the exciting part. Good kid with great character and developing leadership skills. Sticks up for his teammates and is tough enough to do it (especially when he fills more). I'm glad we have him signed for 7 more years. I wonder what the cost was for 8?
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The Islanders and Horvat will get a mental boost from his addition to the team and long term contract. Not sure that it will be enough to get them into the playoffs.
The Sabres need to keep playing consistently and they will get the wins they need.
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This video probably doesn't fit in this thread but thought it was relevant with Doug MacLean telling stories about coaching in the all-star game with Lindy Ruff and benching Roman Hamrlik and Craig MacTavish to win the game for $10K (winning coach). Pretty funny story.
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17 hours ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:
-16 and feels like -27 right now.
That's +3 and -17 for yous degrees F heathans.
Going to be -23 and feel like -39 early tomorrow morning and not much better all day and Sunday. Monday may be okay. Hope we don't lose power (high winds too).
That's -9 and -38 for yous guys. Very near the -40 equalization.
Hope you're doing fine on the East coast NS.
Pretty cold this morning in Ontario at (-18 C) but a clear crisp day otherwise and roads are good for travel.
Every year when it gets this cold I miss my old wood-stove. Nothing like a nice wood fire to warm up with.
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If Sabres are 6th what are the top 5 teams with better prospect pools?
I don't have an Athletic subscription so wondered if someone could share the top 5.
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I was thinking Tage might have done well with the competition to hit the goal targets in the corners. He seems to have a pretty accurate shot with some of the goals he scored this season. Hardest shot would have been great to see to. I hope he feels better soon.
Dahlin will represent the Sabres well and he deserved to have the invite as well.
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So we're better on the road without any practice time.
I was hoping for a closer game against a tired team tonight. Sucks to go into the break with this one.
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LA was leading 4-1 after two and lost 5-4 in OT to Carolina. I expect a good game against a tired team.
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16 minutes ago, French Collection said:
No, I think Coles notes is the Canadian version. People use to buy them at bookstores if they didn’t want to read the entire book.
https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/contributor/author/coles-notes/
Yes I remember Coles Notes back in high school. Still offered through Chapters / Indigo.
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37 minutes ago, Taro T said:
Not saying they are, because they aren't.
But, there's a better chance that 1st is top 5 next year than this year. But there's a real possibility that pick is 11 or 12 this year. Could be the long play on that piece of the deal.
Yes I agree. The pick is only top 12 protected for this year's draft. If it moves out a year it's unprotected (which I believe many fans don't realize).
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10 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:
Sean Malone. To date, I think Petersen is the only Sabres drafted prospect to walk ever who the Sabres offered a contract to.
PS, anyone else happy for Hudson Fasching that he has made and stuck with the NYI. I always liked this kid and hoped he'd make the show.
Yes absolutely happy for Fasching to be carving out some time with the Islanders. I remember reading the family stories when we acquired him. Great family and character. I wish him nothing but the best in the NHL and in life.
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8th Place in the Conference
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I'm as disappointed as anyone with another "no progress" season so far, pretty much a regression so far.
That being said it would not surprise me to see the team somehow turn this around with Tage out of the lineup. Not that Tage is the problem at all but maybe this is what the team needs to get going and shake them up. Mittelstadt, Skinner, Tuch, Cozens, Dahlin, Power. The boys all need to elevate their game.
Bizarro World.