Theana745

On days like this it makes me wish the other fans on this message board were like those airing in the MSG promotional video. Anyways, I think this is a good place to pause this particular conversation for now. I understand that there's spirited debate on both sides here, and that's okay. Revisiting this conversation in a few days will do good for all of us.

My final word on that is I never meant it was a stellar deal for exchange of talent--more like it had to be done. We can't tolerate someone who acted so recklessly, regardless of their percieved skill. Some things are more important than hockey. Overall not a fan of this topic because it make me look like the bad guy

I don't know what to say anymore here. You get attacked from all sides if you say something from a different perspective. I really thought by coming online, I'd be able to bring people together. I think tensions are too hot right now with the article, COVID and perceptions percieved socital, socioecomic issues. Hopefully in a few days people will be more receptive to arguments with nuance

Just because you have A final piece to a puzzle, doesn't mean you have the specific piece to YOUR puzzle

Many reasons why this might happen. Some people have strong family ties and that superseeds all. But not the rule

Correlation doesn't equal causation. All businesses want to make money. Nothing wrong with that. That's a purpose of a business. You have to consider all options on all sides.

Sometimes this is just how business goes.

1) Arena experience is sound. You can't just yell about something without telling someone what's wrong with it. In regards to the food prices, you're paying for the atmosphere like anything else. 2) ROR decision was a good move. You can't have people who act recklessly and endanger lives in our organization. Simple as that. 3) All teams have up and down periods. That's just the way of life sometimes. Thank you. Appreciate this

It's so sad to see someone call the organization criminal. Look, I think we're just going to have to agree to diasgree. I think tensions are hot over the percieved economic inequality in the country. Let's all take some time to cool down

You don't know how ironic this statement was. Even if we take your word, amount of tickets purchased is a much better metric of interest and pashion. Lots of reasons why a fan might mot attend. Maybe they had an exam, got into an accident etc. See my other comment. Ticket purchasd is a much better metric of interest. Lots of reasons why one might not go to a game after buying a ticket. Family events, car accidents etc.

And you should know that team success comes from BOTH a bottom up/top down approach. I'm just trying to find ways to bring people together so the whole organization is on the same page That's because the paid ticket number is so similar to actual attendence.

Didn't come to Buffalo till after. But have read up on things when I came here.

I just have never seen someone say something positive about the players/management/staff here in a long time, and I think that's what prevents people from wanting to come here. Always doom and gloom. I think people here need to have a positive outlook

Not correct. 00-01, 01-02 the team had relatively strong numbers, with close to sellout crowds. They dipped for a few seasons (02, 03) season during the early 2000s. Almost always in the top 20 for attendance. Amazing what a little research does http://proxy.espn.com/nhl/attendance?year=2001

Again, I said this in the other post, but attracting talent player wise and management wise comes down to two things. Robustness of the city and fan culture. Better fan culture = better team = better investments in the city. It sounds like you're fine with no hockey in Buffalo. Fine, but imagine all the dreams you'll crush from all the kids who really believe in our club. Even though the record might not be great, Mr. Pegulla has utilized the team to help a wide variety of charities and pump money into the Buffalo economy. In a city like Buffalo, A team is much more than it's record. It provides jobs and stability to many. There are some things that are too big to fail.

Everyone is titled to his or her opinion. Even though this take might not be reality per say, many individuals in the NHL and other leagues still believe in it. There's been so many stories of players in the league not wanting to come to Buffalo, and that was before Mr. Pegulla came around. It came town to two things. City and fan culture. Ultimately, it's a double edged soward. If you don't provide the team with ticket sales, it will never improve and things will only get worse. Don't you want to give the team a chance at improving? Let me tell you, there's so many kids out there that would be crushed if their favorite hockey team was no longer around. Being in the league is really an honor, and the best fan bases treat it as such.

If you want to make sure our organization remains in buffalo, yes. The ends justify the means

Not sure what the last part means, but glad I'm getting through the people ☝️

And you do. You get the benefit of having such a large organization in your backyard. Think of the entertainment they provide, they jobs they create, the happiness they create. Imagine if PSE left, the impact it would have on Buffalo. Like it or not, they provide world class entertainment and job creator. From my time in Buffalo, the city is basically on the shoulders of UB and the pegullas. Edit: Feeling like I'm finally get through to people ?

Couldn't agree more. I think a lot of poster are just frustrated at the wealth gap and divide in this country (thoughts that get projected to this organization), and when a piece like this came out, people jumped on it like sharks. I've said this so many times before, but people are going to have to come together here, whether you like it or not. And again, before people say I have a dog in this fight, I don't anymore. The success of this organization is a vital part to Buffalo, and the direction it goes is partially dependent on your support. Like or not, you have to create a culture that makes players/talented managers and others want to come here. And this goes for every major field. If everyone here is moping around, you're not going to get best neurosurgeon here etc. Culture comes from the ground up.

Again it's your decision. Just don't be suprised one day you wake up and there's no more hockey in Buffalo

Attend games, buy merchandise, spread word about them on social media Yes. Until someone else gives them another offer. It's their business

Multiple people can have vendettas. The point is that despite what this article may state, people are going to have to find a way to come together here if they want this organization to stay in Buffalo. Problem is the "garbage product" under normal conditions creates jobs for people. If you bite the hand that feeds you, there might not be a hand left anymore

Things are different now. Less stories now, less league action. Someone in the pegulla organization could easily be mad about COVID and the current state of affairs in regards to wealth in the country, hence deciding to come forward. Again not saying that as the definitive truth, but something we all need to consider when analyzing this news piece

Tbh, seems like the source had some sort of vendetta for the organization. I personally would take this article with a grain of salt