Broken Ankles
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Just now, SABRES 0311 said:
You live around Anaheim?
Mission Viejo
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22 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:
If I'm getting an old Duck can I have Getzlaf instead?
Zero Chance. Getz is retiring a Duck. The fans love him out here. So does ownership. He is a part of the OC fabric.
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23 minutes ago, 3putt said:
And one Jack Eichel injury from being a top lottery pick contender.
Why?
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9 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:
If I'm Larsson I test agency for sure. He can get more on the market than here. So if I'm JBot I move him to at least recoup something. (Otherwise, extend the guy during this season when it was seen he was on the mend from that gruesome wrist/arm.)
I think this is right. If Son of Lars is not moved at the deadline it’s because he probably expressed an interest to stay, but since we haven’t seen an extension he probably wants to leave. The ONLY reason for him to stay is the Sweden West thing going on in Western NY. The losing has to have taken a toll. UFA status is earned, and he deserves a look. If he re-signs good for us, if not good on him. We need a prospect not a draft pick in return if moved.
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3 hours ago, Kruppstahl said:
I see your Grigorenko, and raise you 1 Cody Hodgson.
Think about the "wait til this guy gets here" or "wait til this guy is ready" guys in our system for nearly the last decade who are not on the team now, for one reason or the other. Most just never made it; some were traded for other players who never really made it. Some were traded to get guys like ROR but then ROR was given away for nothing so it was like giving the ROR deal players away for nothing.
We just don't have much talent on the team and very little to show for the last 5/6/7/8 years of waiting/drafting/development.
This. Good comparison. Question is how can we do a reverse Kassian trade? We need to find a trade partner where we give the weaker Hodgson type player (Casey) and receive a bigger/stronger player (like Zack) with more smarts.
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On 2/12/2020 at 11:59 AM, Mike Oxhurtz said:
I'm still curious as to what happened with the PLF/Pegula break up?
To Quote Mia Wallace
"Truth is, nobody knows why Marcellus threw Tony out of that four story window except Marcellus and Tony. When you little scamps get together, you're worse than a sewing circle."
Marcellus is TPegs
PLF is Tony.
The similarities also follow
Mia : He Fell out of a window.
Vincent : Hmm, hmm. Well, that is one way to say it. Another way to say it would be that he was thrown out. Another way would be that he was thrown out by Marcellus. And yet even another way to say it was that he was thrown out of the window by Marcellus because of you.
Mia : Is that a fact?
Vincent : No, no. It's not a fact, it's just what I heard. It's just what I heard.
PLT was fired by Terry because of something. Probably not for giving Kim a foot massage.
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3 hours ago, WildCard said:
His possession and point totals look the same as they've ever been. Does anyone have a tool that can show us some more info?
I'm guessing you are using CF% & total points to measure this. If I'm wrong please clarify and advise how your offering this.
If it is, you see he is still a negative Corsi player (47.1%). While this is true it's still slightly above his last four year average of 46.4%. But more importantly the biggest difference I see is total shots for/against compared to previous years. Not as a percentage, but total taken/allowed. Risto is tracking to have an average of 6 shots against less per game and more than 8 shots against per game less than his worst season. Corsi Against numbers for 19/20 are 14 per game. This is 43% over his previous 4 year average. And CF is 12.7 per game and close to down almost 40%. So yes, still a negative Corsi player. When you factor in Goals against & Goals For 5v5 it translates to huge improvement. His oiGF is tracking at .2 more per game. This includes his TOI down 15% to his 4 year average. This is a 52% improvement over his last four years. Similarly his oiGA is down .14 goals per game or 12% compared to 2015-2018 averages. Not looking at just his total +/- but seeing it within the context of other metrics could mean that low event hockey is a better match for him. This is not to say he hasn't had his moments and head scratching plays, but for me those are fewer (@Darksabre comment about oh Risto you idiot) and made up by a more physical presence in front which includes more take aways, fewer give aways and more hits per game. I also think until the Sabres have an actual forward with size, Risto offers the only net front presence on to PP, which has added a dimension to what was (is?) a struggling special teams. So not a 180 from previous years, but I would argue, not the "same" either.
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4 minutes ago, sweetlou said:
I'm on board with a Montour for Tuch trade!!
one for one? This is Sooooooo un-Sweet Lou like.
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22 minutes ago, Eleven said:
I'm on record, for many years, about hating this rule, but thanks for reminding me!
He'll be signed somewhere once his price drops. He's still a good player. He's just not worth the money he makes.
He has had moments of "goodness" but overall an oft injured player who has been more of a pylon than a defenseman during his tenure with the Sabres. he cannot be classified as Good. Below replacement.
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4 hours ago, Curt said:
Ryan O’Reilly and Jamie McGinn for Grigorenko, Zadorov, Compher, and the 31st pick in the draft.
Reasonable
Not my debate here, but happy to offer my opinion on this topic. While to O'Reilly trade proved the ROR deserved the contract he signed, it was still not a good trade for the Sabres. The inherent value of a trade-able asset who is about to become a UFA is to provide immediate help to a team vying for a playoff run. No team up to that point, nor since then, ranking in the bottom 5 of the league (let alone an all-time tank bad) has traded a first round pick or the equivalent for a UFA. The Sabres gave up three times this. The Sabres then had to over-pay to get ROR to sign the extension. They could have easily waited through the 2015 season and made the same offer and kept all those assets. Zadorov & Compher have become valuable assets for COL, and while the Av's traded the 31st overall, the 2015 was stocked with amazing talent that could have yielded many names bantered about in many other posts. This unit, with Kane, Lehner, ROR and Jack over-achieved in 2015, dropping their selection in 2016 to #8. Had they allowed an organic growth to occur ,the 2016 draft might have resulted Matthews instead of Nylander. Worst case, Matthew Tkachuk. Now could ROR have been traded at the deadline in 2015 and signed an extension with another team? Maybe. Only a few times had cap space to make that offer, so it was limited. Hindsight is over course 20/20, but the fact no GM of a last place team would ever consider trading 3 solid assets to then overpay for an extension is foresight. Similarly we were told on how TM was a draft Svengali, and he should have known how strong the 2015 draft was, so to trade not one, but three picks in the top 31 overall is just unforgivable.
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1 minute ago, Curt said:
I wonder why, if this was going to be the outcome, Bogosian and Buffalo didn’t just agree to a mutual contract termination? Perhaps it’s an easier or faster process in a case where the player is suspended?
Don't you think he thought Terry/JB were going to pay the remainder of his salary (a la David Backes) and not have to report?
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30 minutes ago, MakeSabresGrr8Again said:
Orrrrr....maybe JBott is secretly a genius and sent Scandy to Habs in an attempt to help sabotage them in the standings.?
Funny, but NOT true.
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28 minutes ago, dudacek said:
Andy Greene 37, pending free agent making $5 million per
Marco Scandella, 29, pending free agent making $4 million per
Similar roles, similar numbers...
Greene nets a 2nd and a longshot prospect, Scandella the equivalent of a longshot prospect.
This is why I think Scandella might have gotten more closer to the deadline. And I suspect other trades will also bear that out.
Montreal is effectively out of the race, and will soon sell off all their assets including Scandella. Question is, do you believe he will garner more than a 4th round pick? Nothing has change to impact his value for the stretch run. If he does yield more than we know JB cannot properly evaluate value.
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1 hour ago, Brawndo said:
Hutton will be a game time decision
Is this the correct decision? He wasn’t atrocious in his last start. Does Johansson deserve a “big game”? To see how he responds.
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10 hours ago, erickompositör72 said:
Can we bank on this?
If we were playing Card Sharks I’d say this a high number. My guess is this not like Moulson where there was over 1.5 years at $5m AAV and he needed to be a good little soldier. I’m sure he has to get with agent and look at all options but the situation is toxic. I heard second hand from someone with knowledge that it was a retirement. But if the agent gets no feelers, Bogo might not want to lose the 1/3 of this years salary and report.
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4 hours ago, Randall Flagg said:
I would get our third back and use an offer sheet, if anything just to make them squirm for always getting ludicrous sweetheart deals.
They are a great team in a great location, and I think everyone but Kuch and Point have no trade clauses on their contracts. Make an offer sheet high enough and they'll sweat, deservedly so.
worst case scenario, life gets harder for a division rival. Best case, you get a player.
In concept, great idea. But the player still has to sign. Worst case is we make a ridiculous offer and he chooses to forgo and accept a bridge to stay. Then it’s leaked only exacerbating the perception of anti-hockey heaven.
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Hearing Bogo will not be going to Roch and announcing a retirement.
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3 hours ago, PASabreFan said:
Will they warm up in the slug?
That’s what she said.
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9 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:
More specifically, our top line only broke even for the first 18 games,, before Jack's hot streak started. 11 goals for at even strength, 11 against. For a team that is built to lean on a line, this isn't acceptable production. Like I was keeping track at the time, we'd have needed all of our other lines to fairly significantly (compared to what is typically expected of depth lines) outscore their opponents to have a shot at contention like that. 11 goals for in 220 minutes gave them a goal every 20 minutes of ES time. ie, on average, they were scoring less than a goal per game. Then Jack got hot, but he must have gotten power play hot too, as until Olofsson got hurt, they played 311 minutes of ES ice time together and scored 17 goals in that time (a goal every 18 minutes of ES time, a bit better) and were now a +4. so for 41 games, the line was +4 and scored 28 goals at ES. In the 15 games since the injury (and including any time Jack didn't play with Olofsson between 11/15 and his injury, which I don't think is much) the top line has 23 goals in 330 minutes, or one goal every 14 minutes, and is +13.
28 goals, +4 in 41 games AFTER a hot streak, Jack & Victor
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23 goals, +13 in 15 games without an Eichel 132 point pace streak, Jack without Victor (also with 5% more defensive zone draws)
That's the surface level production, I'll also post some other stats for the fancy stats guys
Eichel with Olofsson: 49.49 CF%, 47.35 xGF%, 49.1 scoring chance %
Eichel without Olofsson: 53.52 CF%, 52.82 xGF%, 52.02 scoring chance %
This is mostly just because, while Victor has shown tremendous even strength improvement over the years, he's still not quite ready to truly excel in all facets of the game in the role that comes with playing with Jack. Now that this year is kinda over, I wouldn't mind seeing them continue with Olofsson there because it's worked for his growth so far. But if we were absolutely desperate for maximizing every little thing we possibly can to win games, I'd probably not want Victor on the top line this season.But yet VO is such a better defensive option rather than Skinner. In Ralph’s world.
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On 2/8/2020 at 9:05 PM, Doohickie said:
We just saw it tonight. Pretty awesome flick.
As far as small screen goes, now that Bojack Horseman is complete I've been kind of looking at other shows... Usually it takes two or three shows to pull me in, but after one episode I think The Kominsky Method is going to be a winner.
Binge watched season 2 when it released. Great series.
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It makes no sense whatsoever. Tim Murray reported in to PLT and it was assumed that PLT would be involved in all aspects of what a GM does (UFA signings, trades, etc). PLT was not close to what was happening in the amateur leagues and TM was seen as a scouting guru. PLT hired TM because he was lacking and felt TM could improve this shortcoming in the scouting department. I can see where you hope your supervisor fails at something, so you can move up one rung, but not the other way around. Patty was a defacto GM at the time he left. Whatever disagreements he had were at a level higher than him, not lower.
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37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:
What do you mean O'Reilly factor?
Meaning if Sam was not playing with Jack, but was playing with O'Reilly (2015-2018), the results would have been similar to those with Jack. Taro was concerned about the results if Sam was playing alongside ROR. By using 2018/2019 data that removes ROR from the equation, I'm suggesting that using his replacements were less than replacement level 2C, so that should be considered in the result/numbers you provided of Sam without Jack.
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Fun fact - Derek Grant, whom the Sabres failed to extend in 2017 (JB went with Pouliot, Griffith and Josefson) signed with the Ducks for one year $650K and went on to score 12 goals that year, just brought back more to the Ducks than Scandella did for Buffalo.