Nacho Libre

*that….didn’t include Helenius* Did you just ignore the “not as one of” portion of his sentence because it didn’t fit your wayward point? Congrats, you’ve moved to ignoring portions of sentences now not just full posts. You are seeing the matrix. You aren’t hallucinating - you just aren’t comprehending what you are reading, either by inability, or worse: by choice

Suzuki is a 100 point player. So what’s your prediction for Helenius, perennial mvp contender? Actually asking. Gotta be our best skater since Lafontaine then I’m guessing, we haven’t had anyone scratch 100 in well over 30 years, never mind surpass it. In addition, it took Suzuki until his 7th year to get there (as we so often see with these types of guys). And you said eclipse Suzuki in a “few” years, so do we see Helenius doing better than 27 year old Suzuki at like, 23? What’s he at 27 then, Lafontaine but better defensively? That would seem the reasonable extrapolation Ya I’m not trading that guy for Hellebuyck either.

I think my dad hacked your account He’d fit right in with Tage if so. Well, maybe he could be Tage’s understudy

Nah me and dudacek at least would, as stated Sorry, my ballot was mail in and was clearly stricken from the record

You have to actively teach the AI

Facts Happy to say I was in the 13%

The fact the smartest person on the board got immediately and drastically ratio’ed tells one all they need to know about the state of the union - - - Also, Winnipeg was atrocious defensively last year (and injured on that front) and the story of their season (at least the first half) was defensive breakdowns and leaving Hellebuyck out to dry. Calling them D-first is laughably off the mark and reads like something someone read once and parroted enough times until they started to believe it. It’s like asking if McDavid would he a “stylistic fit” lol. “Don’t quit your day job” type commentary. The Jets had somewhat of a resurgence last year to end the year due to shifting to a more offensive based style. Hellebuyck didn’t win the HART trophy by a combined defensive effort. He won the HART trophy because their strategy was a Hellebuyck effort. I understand I see and pay attention to the Jets more often due to proximity..but a lot of the stuff I’m reading is purely head-canon, as much as posts detailing the struggles of potentially losing “Randolph” are demonstrably keen on paying attention to the details

He also reportedly walked away when 8OA was included, under the condition we dealt Östlund instead of Mrtka. That’s not confirmed, but I don’t think any of it technically is. My impression is there were a few different scenarios that ended up an asset evaluation away. At the end of the day I just hope Jarmo was right to play it as a team that could do without any offseason improvement (aside from banking on internal) regardless of this particular deal falling through, one that could afford to focus more on the long game again. Savoie for McLeod is still the standard when it comes to any recent move I’ve seen the team make, in terms of actively prioritizing the now instead of the future. So credit to Adams on that. Full credit, actually: to me it’s only gotten more impressive the longer it has remained the standard

Especially when he hasn’t had a “bad” playoff career, and especially when the recent, weaker playoff performance sample size is tiny, literally a handful of games (this is why “not clutch in the playoffs” is so often not a real thing. Players are not clutch until..they suddenly are) and when he has more playoff years in the .900s sv% than not. His career sv% in the playoffs is above .900. Vasilevski’s in the last 5 years is .905. The competition goes up and the GA can be very team dependant. the reason I’m inclined to look at sample size and team factors in last 3 years where Connor has struggled more is because, as you saliently point out, he was great in the regular season those years: the theorized aging decline doesn’t seem to fit. It would have also manifested in the regular season, he didn’t start to feel old during the playoffs then revert back to feeling youthful every next regular season. The aging curve wouldn’t manifest like that, if anything it points to him being relied upon too heavily in the regular season and getting worn down. He didn’t win the Hart for nothing. I think the idea we wouldn’t run him into the ground should he be acquired goes without saying. if we really want to dial in on such recent small sample sizes, we can zero in on his olympics performance just as well. 2 of his 3 “poor playoff years” had the exact same amount of games as the Olympic run it comes down to the desire to focus on the most recent playoff stretch, an admitted stinker. On a woefully bad jets team defensively and a team he didn’t want to play for in the same year being older didn’t stop him from dominating a tournament with the world’s best players. It doesn’t scare me off if the price isn’t absurd. And I don’t see any non-straw man arguments to pay an absurd price - - - For the record, and I hope to be pleasantly surprised, I don’t think we acquire Hellebuyck. I think Jarmo does give off the vibe we are the “take it or leave it” team, a sentiment expressed often in this thread, even if I definitively don’t align with it. I don’t think Jarmo feels any pressure to move out of his “little for now, little for later” balancing act. I mean we are sitting almost a year after Adams’ firing with multiple high movement periods navigated by the current GM and the team is still entirely Kevyn Adams’ (minus a couple good players his calculation determined weren’t worth keeping at the expense of the future.) I don’t think he has any particlar desire to shape the team in his image - and I actually thought he would.

What nonsense. Can someone please remind me what Hasek was traded for a mere 40 years ago? Beauregard and a 4th. And that’s the greatest goalie ever, not just the greatest American goalie ever. I’m not paying a penny more than Beauregard and a 5th. I’m just not comfortable betting on the guy being better than UPL when his career regular season and playoffs sv% blow UPL’s out of the water. Obviously Jarmo agrees with me, the fact it did not happen proves it. The absence of data proves a negative we all know that My honest opinion? Whatever we end up doing, or not doing, that’s what I wanted. Just calling it in advance so it’s fair, no funny business. I find the thought of keeping every player we have immensely pleasurable. Truth be told and candidly I’m almost painfully pleasured by the thought of it. It’s almost euphoric (erotic?) how much physical pleasure I’m deriving from it. …sorry..what were we talking about? Oh ya, picking Shanahan to shoot instead of Gretzky was f*cking stupid

Byram might not be half as good as Makar and he makes more than half. I think that’s fine He doesn’t know half of the old Avs half as well as he should like, and he plays like more than half of Makar half as well as his team deserves

BANG

For the record I see Tage’s assist total as relatively low, not high. Mid pack for 1Cs maybe but not mid-pack for a team’s best F. Tage led our F in assists and finished 39th in the league for forwards. So solidly on the weaker end when it comes to a team’s highest assist getting F. On some teams they’d have 2 better Dahlin certainly helps, but I did account for that by breaking it down to just forwards I don’t think this discrepancy is something that manifests in terms of overall team 5 V 5 play, as Tage also snipes and I don’t think we are losing relative to average top forward all things considered (unless he has another below average defensive season) Where I still maintain stringently that it manifests is in special situation circumstances. see: the powerless play: That specific skill of dishing required, I’d argue specifically FROM a forward, any forward, is something that’s a key component to any successful PP - We have a below league average primary disher on the PP. - This is something I barely see mentioned that, to me, remains strikingly Occam’s razor-ish in terms of identifying the issues with the PP