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  1. 7 hours ago, SDS said:

    Fair enough, but regardless if their overall talent level is lower than the median, it’s not “they are an expansion team therefore you should never lose to them“ bad. Their -12 goal differential shows they aren’t getting blown off the ice in their losses. 

    They’re not bad because they’re an expansion team, they’re bad because they’re an expansion team that chose not to pick the best players available to them in favor of long-term flexibility. They SHOULD be better.

    4 hours ago, sabresparaavida said:

    Brett Murray giving a reason to keep him around, that goal was a very good, simple play, something this team could use more of. He just picked his space, held it, and patiently cashed in a rebound.

    What has his overall game looked like since the call up? I’ve only been able to watch a few minutes here and there.

  2. 19 minutes ago, WildCard said:

    There has to be something else going on otherwise that's a pretty large move after your first Cup finals appearance in three decades.

    Bergevin was probably going to get fired if they didn’t make the unlikely run to the finals and everyone knew that run wasn’t exactly … legit.

  3. 6 hours ago, Thorny said:

    Sabres currently in line for, surprise, pick 8. As of course is tradition. (Ristolainen, Nylander, Mittelstadt, Quinn)

    I could see the Sabres staying in this spot for the long haul this season honestly, aside from the Islanders we could be better than all the teams below us. 

    I think the Blackhawks, Canucks and Isles are all definitively better. But I also think none of it matters because the Sabres are obviously winning the lottery regardless of where they finish.

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  4. 31 minutes ago, dudacek said:

    Eight game is too small, but the 18 games before that isn't? He's played just 26 AHL games over the past 2 seasons.

    During the same time period he was .908 over 14 games in Finland and .904 over 4 games in Buffalo.

    I agree he hasn't been good and you are right question his play. i just think the breadth of his struggles have been overstated.

    He’s a career .886 in the AHL. That’s not bad, that’s putrid. It’s that simple.

  5. 1 minute ago, Flashsabre said:

    I agree with this. It just seems a number of people want to dump on him. At the end of the season we can see where he is at.

    My biggest gripe (not from you) are the people who say he has never been good, totally ignoring his OHL career and WJC run.

    I’m not going to say he is the solution but before age 24 you really don’t know what you have.

    There’s a full chance UPL puts up numbers in the NHL he never came close to in the AHL. Not only because the two leagues very different, but also because goalies are ***** weird.

  6. 27 minutes ago, kas23 said:

    I would take any of those names over what we have right now.

    Absolutely! That’s a layup. And I’m not saying there isn’t good NHL goaltending on that list but none of them are long-term studs to this point except Binnington but, again, there’s a wide gap between .886 and .907.

    1 minute ago, Flashsabre said:

    People wanting to dump on the kid when he has a .920 sv % his last 8 games but ignoring it all together tends to lean towards narrative.

    The conversation started before the last eight games and eight games isn’t a big enough sample size to entirely dissuade the conversation about his struggles. It’s not a narrative.

  7. 50 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

    Umm What? Binnington has won a Cup, Campbell has been lights out. Allen and Blackwood are legit NHL goalies.

    There seems to be a narrative where some just seem to want UPL to fail. I don’t get it. Kid has played much better of late he is very young for a pro goalie.

    I want UPL to succeed. I’m a Sabres fan. Nobody wants him to fail, it’s just important to note how far off he is from playing meaningful pro hockey.

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  8. 2 hours ago, dudacek said:

    Tim Thomas played 36 IHL games at .892 when he was 26. Probably the most extreme example.

    Jack Campbell 19 AHL games at .884 when he was 24

    Binnington .907 in 41 games at 23

    Jake Allen .904 in 35 games when he was 23

    Blackwood .882 in 31 games when he was 22

    That’s just a quick check, so not unheard of, but he certainly has a lot to overcome.

    Lets see where he’s at come March.

    Aside from Thomas none of those names inspire me. And there’s a huge gap between suv-.890 and .904/.907.

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  9. Just now, Curt said:

    UPL was not bad in the ECHL.  He has played a total of 37 AHL games.  Goalies take time.

    I wonder how frequently successful NHL goalies play 40 games of sub .890 sv% hockey in the AHL.

    Just now, Crusader1969 said:

    Edit.   10th in sv%. 

    Oof. So much he was the 10th best goalie in a terrible league. Not great and certainly doesn’t add much confidence.

  10. 1 hour ago, dudacek said:

    Not really, he just went Rosen. Got called up to the KHL to be filler. As @Brawndo’s latest post shows, he gets sent back to junior and starts scoring again.

    Baker addressed your UPL point by calling his problems not unexpected inconsistency:

    “He’s facing adversity, and this is part of the process,” Baker said. “I think deep down Luukkonen is still the same prospect that was the best player in the OHL a couple years ago and led Finland to a World Junior gold medal. I think he’s still the same prospect that came up and performed pretty well in his first dose of NHL action last spring.”

    Gotta say that in the AHL games I’ve seen UPL play recently, he’s been pretty good.

    After allowing 20 goals in his first four games, he’s allowed 19 in his past 8 - stopping more than 40 shots in 3 of them.

    I don’t think we can call what UPL has been going through “inconsistency.” He’s been consistently bad in the ECHL, AHL and NHL for a few years now. Whether this recent trend is a sign of a “new” UPL remains to be seen. I’m not burying him but I also don’t think he factors much into plans right now.

  11. 10 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

    Is it time to give Quinn a few games in Buffalo?

    I think it wouldn’t be the worst idea to get him in for a couple games during the week at home when the Amerks have several days off surrounding a home game. Get him in to Buffalo to play a game or two and then get him back to Rochester. This strategy gives him a peak of the NHL game to take back to Rochester with some knowledge on what to work on. It also avoids bringing all the kids up at the end of the year in the thick of a playoff race in Rochester.

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  12. 13 hours ago, Thorny said:

    Interesting that the goalies are all so low despite (especially Levi's) absurdly good numbers. Not that those above haven't looked very promising, but to me there's just a natural reluctance to rank goalies higher. 

    In that sense I'm actually surprised he has Samuelsson so low, too. 

    It’s a reasonable approach to goaltending projections. Portillo and Levi are years and years away from consistently getting time on NHL ice. There is so much that can happen between now and then in their development that’s it’s impossible to project them higher than players that are not only closer to NHL ice but showcasing high-end skill sets at this time. UPL being “tied” at 10th is a cop out and a lie, though. He’s nowhere near the top ten for this team because he’s at a time where he should be ready for NHL ice but has yet to prove he’s ready for AHl ice.

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  13. Tkachuk responding to the Lemieux incident.

    1 hour ago, triumph_communes said:

    Not sure how he can step on the ice after that ever again 

    I mean let’s not go overboard. It’s disgusting and gutless but not a lifelong suspension kind of thing. Guys have bit and been bitten before. It should be a really long suspension but not lifelong.

    The lifelong suspension for Lemieux should be the fact that he’s just not a good hockey player and appears to be someone who doesn’t play well in the locker room either.

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  14. 7 hours ago, Pimlach said:

    The narrative you are forcing is the wrong one.  The goaltending sucks and it lost the game once again.  The Red Wings second and third goals were terrible.  Tokarski played good for who he is, and he got a bunch of breaks because the Wings don’t have the skill to hit the wide open net that he consistently leaves behind him.  Dustin Tokarski is 16-24-10 in the NHL.  He is a poor NHL goalie. He is a 32 year old AHL journeyman.  Dell is even worse right now.  
     

    We need better goaltending to advance this program - and that is the only true narrative when it comes to Sabres goaltending.  
     

    Anything Tokarski did prior to tonight is completely irrelevant to the conversation because it’s about what happened tonight (well, last night). Dell is also irrelevant because he didn’t even play. Tokarski played a good game that should’ve resulted in a win but the team didn’t give him the needed goal support.

    As I’ve already stated - the team needs goaltending but last night wasn’t an example of that. Great goalies let in soft ones, too. But if you keep the other team to two goals in regulation you can’t be asked to do much more.

    7 hours ago, Claude Balls said:

    And this team has had garbage goaltending since forever. These poor kids are playing their ***** off only to lose all these close games because their goaltending blows. And has blown year after year. Why is it so ***** hard to bring in a decent goalie??? It seems like such an easy fix. Is the first thing Pegula tells his new GM's is not to worry about the goaltending?? We need scoring first, we can get a goalie anywhere. Just like drafting a kicker in fantasy. They are the least of your worries. I dunno anymore.

    This loss wasn’t on Tokarski.

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