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I get it... but Matthew... its over... make your tee times... nothing changes until Pegula sells or brings in competent management

If you check out youtube, there are videos on 'practice facilities' showing a lot of this. -Florida, Salt Lake, Seattle. https://www.nhl.com/news/utah-arena-practice-facility-crazy-nice There are spacious locker, training, equipment and meeting rooms, of course. There is natural light in the rinks, and there are glass walls and collaborative spaces in the offices. The flow creates what Tourigny calls "constant collisions," people naturally running into each other, coming together. There is a recovery lounge, including massage chairs, an infrared bed and a sensory deprivation room. There is a hydrotherapy area, including a pool with reverse currents and an underwater treadmill. Guenther said he has used it -- not for rehab, just to try it out. Apparently, the guys, being guys, have had swim meets. The weight room alone is 8,000 square feet. It's so big, Chris Armstrong said, a player asked, "What other team are we sharing this with?" It has a strip of black artificial turf long enough to run 40-yard dashes. Just off the weight room is a barber shop. That's right. A barber shop. There are two barber chairs, and the team will bring in a barber a couple of days a week. "I was visiting another team, and they had one in their facility, and it was just another great point of camaraderie," Chris Armstrong said. "You've got a guy in the chair, a couple guys waiting, a couple guys in the doorway, and they're shooting the [bull]. Hey, this is another congregating point, another reason to stay here longer and be more invested in what we're all doing." CNBC did the segment a couple months ago saying how pro sports teams all over the world are adding these things (pools, Massage areas, private parking facilities with services to take care of your car as you take a golf cart to practice) Its not all hockey facilities that have them, some colleges (Nebraska), and some Europen league soccer teams. Its all in an effort to attract the best players and coaches. Seattle has multiple videos of theirs where it is open Kraken family members, and even some public events. As for the pools, Utah has a smaller one. The Lakers along with other NBA teams have ones that are larger. The Lakers even have the facilities open for community events. If you watch enough of the below videos, Youtube AI should figure out you are watching this stuff and recommend a lot more like them.

The problem with the Sabres revolves around talent and roster construction. The origin of those deficiencies has to do with the GM and staffing in general. The caliber of the facilities has nothing to do with this failed franchise. Pervasive organizational ineptitude, starting with the non- talking owner , is the sole reason why this franchise has been sunk for a generation. It should be noted that the players who worked their way out of this sad-sack franchise cited a chance to win and not the quality of the facilities as the reason to get out of dodge.

The failed culture in Buffalo remains the same. It won't change with an addition here or there or simple coaching change or exchanging a few players. Even the seasonal pattern remains the same as it has been in previous seasons. They lose 3 in a row. They win 4 of 5. They lose 8 of 9. They sit in last place in the Conference (3rd from last in the entire NHL). Owners don't seem to understand that they have to change the entire FO if they want a culture change. And exchange some bad culture players for good culture players. If Pegula doesn't have the energy or knowhow to run the team, then at least hire a reputable President who can then go out and hire a GM & HC. Or at least hire an older, winning hockey mind who can be a consultant and review the team. As it is, as long as this FO stays, the team will suck. He might want to check into hiring someone like a Dean Lombardi to be President. He led the Kings to two Stanley Cups, was fired, and has been a Senior Advisor with the Flyers the past few seasons. Pour out the $$$$ for him or someone akin to that who knows hockey, has experience running an NHL organization, and can restructure the entire front office. When that happens the new Pres, GM, and HC can change an entire culture by determining what kind of team identity you are going to build and staying focused on that from the top down. I just don't see any other way to transform the Sabres than to do this. I think this is true in all team sports. It's pretty much a no brainer for that. But Pegula seems unwilling to do so. One has to wonder if he's so caught up in the Bills Stadium and tied up so much liquidity that he has to resort to short changing the Sabres.

A succession plan they suspect is in the works needs to happen now. The state of the Sabres, injuries and all, demands it.

Hmm. Punish the players and fans for a perceived personal slight? Geez, hope not. That would be an indictment on the Pegulas, especially given the Sabres focus on character. More likely Pegula turned it over to Adams and his staff to build a contender six years ago, and is letting it play out given their contracts. At least, I hope so. Adams and staff need to go.

Great point. Forever ago, I ran into Teppo and Maxim at Hutch's. I nodded to them and said "good game last night." They smiled and nodded back. I doubt that happens in Utah because I doubt that the public knows who the players are ... yet. We know hockey in Buffalo. They are learning it in Salt Lake City.

I agree that changes, even big player changes, should be on the table. Maybe I quoted the wrong part of your post and should have included where you stated you are "ready for another multi-year teardown run by a new front office". I understand that some fans enjoy the rebuild process (I can get behind a good rebuild), but I can't imagine selling it to the larger fanbase at this point.

I think this is just where we are in the cycle. It’s like being a Bills fan. During the 18-year drought, all we wanted was playoff football. When it finally happened, it felt amazing. But fast-forward to 2025, and now the expectation is the Super Bowl. Once you’ve had a taste of it, anything less feels like a disappointment. It’s the same for Leafs fans—simply making the playoffs isn’t enough anymore. They need playoff wins. Eventually, hopefully, we’ll reach a point where the only thing that really matters is winning the Cup.

Hard to watch last night. Hollins is not a solution to any WR problem, but it would be nice if he still had a spot on the Bills.

There are few good explanations for Terry's inaction. Maybe the best one I can come up with is he's paying the fans back for booing him and Kim on RJ Night.

Which NHL hockey team has this? I would be curious to learn more about it.

We are starting to see more and more the above is an issue. Players today really want great facilities. We have seen videos and read articles about places like Florida, Salt Lake, Seattle, and others (in other sports) building basically palace like practice facilities. They are located near the airport where players live, not a downtown area all the time (or in a nice part of downtown. They look like Spas, have community rooms and swimming pools for their families to show up and use at times, private chefs, even people to professionally wash and detail the players cars while they are at practice if they want. Those things matter. If the dollar in a conract are close, and the decision is close THOSE things are swaying where players want to play. When harborcenter was built and the locker rooms were renovated, the Sabres had one of the better facilities in the league. That is no longer true, no even close.

The Sabres facilities are not substandard. Are they the very best? No, but one thing Terry gets the minimalist of credit for is renovating the locker room and player areas. Having an entire hotel with 2 ice rinks connected to your home arena is pretty sweet.

I love it. There's no attempt to polish the statement. Just blunt and straightforward. I take a lot of this as marketing the player. They are probably open to moving him and having coaches saying his NHL ready helps in that regard, especially where he is at in his career.

It starts and ends with ownership. Period. Terry is a circus clown in NHL circles: Players know it. Agents know it. The facilities are sub standard. The way players are treated is way substandard. It is a disgrace beyond compare. What is the fix? Hell if I know at this point, i am out of suggestions or answers. Sell Terry. SELL. And the worst part? SO many of you and other great Sabres fans deserve SO much better. It is painful.

Why are you assuming he's getting this from social media? He could be at a restaurant and someone could say something to him. But, players are on social media, all the time. You have a completely unrealistic expectation. No matter what, players are aware of the world around them. How much they let it bother them is another story. And I don't think he said it bothered him. Well, it's pretty normal when a player returns to a market that they get asked to compare the new team with the old team. So, he did. It's not like he randomly commented on it while in Carolina. Exactly. And who doesn't want unconditional love? He specifically calls Buffalo a hockey market which insinuates that Utah is not. If the organization ever figures out how to put a winning product on the ice he'll understand how much better it is in Buffalo than Utah as well, because it's a hockey market.

The abject ineptitude of this management is literally unparralleled... the they make the federal Government look like the bastion of practicality and efficiency...

That is the ultimate goal, but I can live without any cups. For me sports are an entertainment product.....what I don't NEED is a cup...what I DO need is more nights where I am happy watching the team than I am upset, along with the thought that on any given year there is a CHANCE for a cup.

Major rebuild... Thompson, Dahlin, Tuch, Power are not going to all stand for this much longer... there is no way out... our star players are going to defect, we will be unable to procure equal assets because of NMCs and we will get young players/prospect and picks... but no one who will immediately come in and make this team measurably better... there is no white knight only more pain... and starting over aaaaaaaaaagain....

Exactly Ray and Domi were like 5 10 200 or so lbs... Wendell Clark about the same, Peca even lighter, Danny Gare smaller than that... the list goes on... I could also then bring in Mike Wilson, Tyler Myers, Uwe Krupp, Dave Andreychuck, who were not known as physical players... I think the constant is that we wanted them to be more physical because they had the size to make it an advantage (although Andreychuck was a beast down low controlling the puck) but toughness is more about mindset (see Zach Benson) and less about physical size... although actually having the mindset AND the physical size is optimal for effectiveness.

This was another game that was mysteriously missing from my ESPN+ feed. I was able to find, on ESPN+, the 1 1/2 minute highlight reel, and decided to watch that in lieu of watching the game. Once again, they did me a favor.

But if they are a .500 team at full strength is that good enough? But no Stanley cups At the end of the day, that's what's it's really about

For the last year I have agreed with that 100%. First, it seems apparent that Adams is not a dictator, it appears he gathers his top advisors around when they make a decision and they all have input. So this roster is not just a result of Adams decision making, but those other guys have all had input into putting this roster together. Next, I want no one left around that can look at this roster and look at any player and think anything close to 'thats my guy'. I want whoever comes in to have no attachment to the current players. The funny thing is, many of us who never talked like this in the past are discussing "just how big will the purge of the front office be"? There's still a chance nothing will change.