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  1. What's new in this club
  2. Drink every time someone says "border security"
  3. I have a new found respect for Nancy Pelosi. Trump Speaks and the market tanks. It's really amazing.
  4. Getting tired of all this winning.
  5. This is the time to buy if you can afford it. I've been watching my 401k balance drop steadily since late September/early October despite contributing 5% of each paycheck along with a 5% match from my employer. Yeah, it can be frustrating in the moment as your literally watch your hard earned money vanish like a fart in the wind but putting money in now gets you more shares per buck because they are worth less. When the market rebounds you'll have more shares since you bought them relatively cheaply. If I could afford to, I would increase my contribution instead of just putting in the amount that maxes out my employer match, I just can't afford to at this time. I need a promotion or a significant merit raise to make that possible.
  6. ubkev

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    My bad, forgot there was a better gun related thread to put it under. Will delete.
  7. Eleven

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    It might, in some way, or it might not, but you've got to quote ubkev for him to get the notification...
  8. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-05/total-market-pain-is-worst-since-1972-as-investor-anxiety-mounts Bad fiscal policy triggers inflation, which triggers an increase in interest rates across the globe, which triggers historically bad market projections. Go figure.
  9. Weave

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    How does that relate to the NY gun bill?
  10. LTS

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    No worries. Thanks for clarifying. I mean, I'm not keen on the topic of dying overall and it's certainly not uplifting in the overall sense.
  11. ubkev

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    Apologies. My remark was more off the cuff and not specific to that particular situation. More of a pondering of my own mortality kind of thing. Sorry I wasn't more clear.
  12. LTS

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    Not sure why you said that... This isn't being 22 and being able to reshape your life. You've lived a long life at 92 and you've lived it a certain way. Unfortunately he had some internal issues that creeped in and he was basically "getting by" each day. He was no longer the person he had always been. So, he was miserable. No one wanted him to die, but they take solace in the fact that he's no longer waking up each day and getting mad about the fact that it happened. (This is how it was relayed to me.)
  13. ubkev

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    Well that was uplifting...
  14. LTS

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    A lot will depend on the kind of person you are as well. People who've made a lifetime of being more active usually don't adjust well to changes in lifestyle that require them to be less active. Quality of life is the key. Is the life you can still lead going to be fulfilling to you? A friend just had his uncle die at 92. The guy wanted to die basically. He was done sitting around all day long not being able to do anything. No one is really upset because everyone knew he was basically living out his last days miserable with his condition.
  15. RambosKnife

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    The average lifespan of a man in the U.S. is in the mid 70s I think. I guess I can see how older people are more content with mortality. They have a whole lifetime of experience to gain perspective. I imagine maybe some things start to break down at that age and you just kind of have to accept it.
  16. Eleven

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    My godmother's mom is 102. Yesterday, she had to lecture my mother on what date and day of the week it was.
  17. LTS

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    I don't know about that. My great-grandmother lived to 98 and she was moving around pretty good until about 6 months before she died. I don't want to sit around all day just waiting for the end, but if I can live some kind of life, I'm in for the long haul.
  18. SwampD

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    Too long.
  19. Weave

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    What disappoints me most about this bill is that, while unlikely to become law (and it is totally unreasonable in any way), it fans the flames of those who are wont to cry that the Democrats are going to take their guns away. It motivates the NRA crowd in big ways. Pointless and counterproductive.
  20. The entire concept is farcical. If it passes I will move from this state even if it means I must get a divorce. That said, were I in the situation where they asked me to turn over my social media account information I would simply say that I do not have a social media accounts. How are they going to prove that I do? What department will be in charge of investigating and proving it?
  21. LTS

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    I don't have much to add. 94 is a long time to live. I'll leave it at that.
  22. New Scotland (NS)

    President Bush (Sr.) Passed Away

    I only joined the Club to post this. No offense, but I will unjoin / leave after this post. +++++ It is Saturday and the board is not very active and it happened late last night, but I am a bit surprised that this news is not getting more play. Anyway, I am quite liberal in my politics, so it will be no surprise that I was not a fan of President Bush. 94 is a very good age and he did seem to really love his family very much, so I will give him that. Like all Presidents, I feel that he has blood on his hands and I will pray to God to have mercy, as I do for everyone that passes away.
  23. RambosKnife

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    Some common ground. I don’t see an answer to gun control everyone will be happy with but some people want more control in general. It’s as if they use highly charged topics like this to test how far they can go. What happens if this passes? What else would require your username/password in the future?
  24. Eleven

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    I must apologize, and especially to @RambosKnife. I thought the bill required the applicant to disclose social media accounts. That is reasonable to me. It turns out, according to Rod Watson's column yesterday, that the bill requires the applicant to disclose her/his username and password. That is patently unreasonable. And Rod Watson is not exactly prone to advancing conservative agendas; he is TBN's racial affairs columnist. The fact that he brought it up (he is dead set against it) was especially striking. I had no idea. I still support controls on access to handguns, for the reasons above, or, if not, unfettered access to ALL weapons, again for the reasons above, but this proposal is not a reasonable control on access to handguns. This needs to be scrapped pronto.
  25. Samson's Flow

    Political reform

    Haha yeah as I was typing it out I was thinking "this makes each vote cast worth 2.x points, which is dumb" but it was the best way to articulate the concept I was thinking of.
  26. darksabre

    New York State Gun Bill - WIVB Report

    I think I tried to rush my shot a little bit in the swearing thread and I lost the handle 😊
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